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A.J.
Jan 18, 2009 - 6:20AM
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Initial Thoughts
Just bought the program and went through the material. I don't need to spend much time on the diagnosis end of things - noticeably high hip on the left side, which is also tilted out of alignment noticeably forward and toward the other side of the body.
I injured myself a year ago and had severe muscle spasms and the twisted muscles twisted my pelvis and while I've slowly gotten better, probably 80%, my pelvis is still out of whack too much. This causes me to favor the good side too much even though I've known this contributes to the problem.
As for treatment, well let's just say that I think very little of traditional methods. The last thing I want is a bunch of meds all of which i strongly feel add to the problem not solve it. Or worse, some course of treatment like chiropractic that is self-perpetuating, leading to a long term situation. Some folks have suggested physio or massage but I probably know more about both then the average practitioner and practice both, which has helped a lot but this is taking way too long.
I knew the real source of the problem is muscle imbalances but finding the right exercises for this condition has proved very difficult, at least up until now. It's tricky because you tend to treat what hurts - massage, stretching, strengthening, electrotherapy, but what you really need to address is the cause.
I won't be satisfied with anything less than a full recovery in no time and I'm already confident that I will get it with the help of this program. Many of the stretches I was already doing, or something similar, but I can't believe I didn't think of just doing them on the high side. We're so programmed to want to stretch everything and that tip alone is worth several times the price for this thing. Sometimes a fresh perspective and especially such a knowledgeable one is all that is needed.
I've already come up with several new ideas from the material and some of them are extremely simple but effective. For instance I work in a home office and since the injury have been uncomfortable with both feet flat on the floor in my office chair and have been crossing the high side leg over the other one which provided relief. I see the problem with this now though and this has contributed to things probably a lot. Now when I cross my legs I'm crossing the other leg and while it's uncomfortable it's therapeutic as it works the side of the body I need to.
The cause of the whole thing, and something that really has never been a mystery, is hamstrings so tight it's sick. Naturally the bad side is tighter, but to give you an idea, in regards to the stretch where you sit on the floor with one leg bent and the other straight and reach forward, I can't sit in that position and have to lean back 45 degrees and even then it's pretty painful. I can do the one with my leg out on a step but there's no need to lean forward to get the stretch, and that's pretty much the only one that's been effective for me and many thanks for that one. My hams have been real tight all my life but I finally have something I can work with.
Anyway I'll let you know how things go with this program but I'm super excited!
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A.J.
Jan 18, 2009 - 2:42PM
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Day 1
I'm looking over the material again today and here's what I'm looking to work on. I did the inner thigh stretch and there's no issues there really and I'll do that once in a while to make sure this stays this way. It's the outer thigh and leg. No tightness on the inner, lots on the outer, hams, quads, etc.
I pulled a couple exercises from the FTP section even though I definitely don't have this, in fact I've hardly got any lumbar curve at all, never really did, and this is something I need to address as well. Working on getting the lateral stuff straighter first though. Anyway according to the program HH is caused in part by weak hams and tight quads and there's a couple of nice exercises that address this in the FTP section, the standing quad leg pull and the leaning over leg bend for the hams. I'm doing these on both sides as I already do the one sided stuff in the HH program and I've got issues with both legs with this. Just since last night I'm noticing an improvement here. I sit almost all day long and that takes its toll and these 2 really seem to help counter the shortening that you get from this.
I've also found the 3 exercises that I got in an email that got me to sign up to be helpful as well. The squats, the side to side hip movements, the hip twists. These are just **** good stretches if you have hip problems.
Getting back to the crossing of the legs that I mentioned in the previous post, try this by crossing your HH side leg over the other so that your ankle rests on the other leg. Notice the position of the pelvis. High hip on the side of the crossed leg. Now do the other leg. High hip on the other side. So doing the opposite of your high hip makes sense here to me anyway.
So I do feel a little better already and my pelvis is straightening out noticeably after less than a day. So far so good.
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Ann
Jan 18, 2009 - 5:39PM
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Re: Initial Thoughts
HI AJ,
Just to say Hi and Welcome.
Its good to know you are finding the system helpful. When I first started it I did find it useful to send in my photos and assessment and I found Steve very helpful when I had questions so you can consider that if you want to.
Before I got this system I had quite a lot of treatments that seemed to address the symptoms but only gave temporary relief if at all, this was the one for me that got to the cause so I hope you find that too. So important to address the symptoms and the cause. It is good to hear you are noticing some difference already!
If you have to sit a lot try to break it up every 30-45 mins or so getting up and moving around /some stretches and changing position if you can. You may find that helpful.
You sound very motivated and we are all here if you need a chat. It is important to be consisitent and only do the exercises to your tolerance. You might also find some of the articles on this site interesting as well.
Wishing you all the best
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Yannick
Jan 18, 2009 - 6:36PM
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My pelvic was twisted sick at some point and kept getting out of adjustments each time i did daily work, after 150 useless chiropratic adjustments i found prolotherapy.
I got around 9 treatments of prolo but after 5 my pelvic was a lot stronger and stop getting out of alignment.
I still have a few prolo treatments to go true before i am 100% my ligaments are weak since i been injured for 8 years.
Might want to look it up at some point
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Jeff
Jan 19, 2009 - 10:02AM
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Yannick.........I also did Prolotherapy......I was wondering what areas were your injections in and what solution did they use?.......for me I had 5 sessions with injection all in my SI area ....I had one PRP session also.....I noticed a little relief at best...but come to find out after all the injections an MRI showed a torn Adductor Tendon and Torn Rectus Ab Tendon....SO now IM going to try the PRP Injected into those areas starting in FEB.....Prolotherapy does work if it is a Ligament or Tendon Issue from injury....It worked on my seperated shoulder and also a frined of mine tendon in his elbow was torn half off the bone ...doctors wanted to do surgery .....He tried the PRP Prolo first and it woked 100% after 2 sessions......saved him surgery, $$$$ , time down and rehab......
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A.J.
Jan 19, 2009 - 6:54PM
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I"m not even sure prolotherapy is available where I live but I appreciate the tip. I'm more into the systemic stuff and would prefer not messing around with injections if I can help it. The cool thing about this approach though and something that traditional medicine doesn't understand very well is you want the inflammation as it's what heals you and the last thing you want to do is take anti-inflammatories if you can help it. Enzyme therapy works in a similar way, won't give you the blast that an injection will but is something that everyone with soft tissue injuries needs to take.
My anti-inflammatory response needs no help though :) My real problem here is muscle imbalances and I've known that for awhile but there just isn't much on twisted pelvis to be found which is why I bought this program, to get someone else's ideas. The problem with adjustments here is that it doesn't address the cause and a crooked pelvis is the system not the cause. Even worse, the "corrections" actually perpetuate the injury and folks have to keep coming back for more. Not my idea of a cure
The stuff here is a start and the main problem I have is lateral hip thing where it's over to one side more but I've got some ideas and feel pretty good about it all.
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Jesse Cannone
Jan 20, 2009 - 11:49AM
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Welcome AJ and be sure to keep us posted on your progress or let us know if you have questions :)
Jesse
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A.J.
Jan 21, 2009 - 6:51PM
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Thanks for the welcome Jesse. I'm going to post the progress on this thread so the history is kept together.
Here's where I'm at now. The benefit of this program for me and a benefit I might add that's worth many times the cost of it is that I've looked in depth at the thinking behind it all and this has really improved my own thinking here.
I've come up with a stretch from all of this that has corrected my HH in a single day and also corrected my lateral hip sway. My hip is now straight baby!
Here's the stretch. I won't go into the rationale of it here but it certainly addressed the muscle imbalances that were troubling me and if you have HH it would be worth a try for sure. Stand up straight and reach for the sky with both hands. Now lean to the side of the HH with your upper torso. Try to keep your hips stable when you do this. If you're doing it correctly your legs should stay perpendicular with the floor and your hips on up including your arms should be moving to the side of the HH.
The idea here isn't to cause a lot of pain and if so you need to go more gently. Hold for a few seconds then repeat, as many times as you're comfortable.
As your hips straighten, which you need to monitor in the mirror, you want to add the other side as well.
By the way it's the muscles on the OTHER side that's causing your condition and you should feel them being stretched during all this. Ultimately as a maintenance program you want to do a brief daily stretch on both sides to prevent the problem from recurring.
If this doesn't help you well you don't have the same condition I do but if you do you will see some pretty amazing results
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Brandon
Jan 22, 2009 - 7:40PM
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Hi AJ
Really appreciate your enthusiasm!!!!
So basically what you are doing is stretching the obliques on the opposite side of your HH? Just doing an old fashion side bend?
Brandon
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Nick
Jan 23, 2009 - 6:05PM
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Hi A.J.,
I also have a HH on my left side and that's interesting that stretching your right side fixed your HH. Hmmm..I have tightness on my left side and have been stretching my left side a lot compared to my right and it has helped but I am going to start stretching my right side more now that you say this fixed your HH in one day!! How can you tell it fixed your HH? Also, about how long do you hold the stretch? In the LTBP book it shows the left torso is the tight side for a left HH so I don't understand how stretching the right side will fix a HH on the left side although it does say that the hip is tight on the non HH side so maybe that's it. I don't know. Am I missing something?